True Freedom: Inner Healing, Somatic Release, and Finding Safety in Your Body

Do you feel like you’ve done the spiritual work, yet your body remains stuck in fight-or-flight mode? You aren’t alone on this journey, and there is hope for complete restoration.

In this special episode, the tables are turned! Holistic Kinesiologist Krista Haskins takes the mic to interview me about the heart of my practice. Together, we dive deep into the powerful intersection of inner healing and somatic bodywork, exploring why involving the body is often the missing key to lasting peace.

Join us as we discuss:

• The difference between traditional therapy and spiritual inner healing.
• How to invite Jesus into your trauma to break loops of shame and fear.
• Why your nervous system might be "bracing" for impact, and how to help it find safety again.

If you are ready to move from simply surviving to truly thriving in your body and spirit, this conversation is for you. Let’s find your peace together.

You can connect with Jen at www.exaltedhealth.com

You can connect with Krista at www.intuitivemamawellness.com

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:45

So, welcome back to the Find Your Peace podcast. I'm super excited to have my friend uh Krista Haskins here with me today. Krista is a holistic kinesiologist. And if you've listened to any of my recent episodes, I've had her on. But today we're going to do something different. Today, Krista is going to interview me and ask me some fun questions. So, Krista, I'm going to turn it over to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

All right. So happy to be here and excited to be able to sort of feature Jen on her own podcast and talk about more about what she does and help people who may not have gone in to see her yet have a better understanding and uh maybe decide they want to. So uh you work a lot, Jen, with inner healing. So let's just start out by giving our listeners just a definition of how you define inner healing, what that includes. Why don't you go from there?

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Yeah. So for the spiritual portion of inner healing, essentially what it's doing is it's bringing you closer to God and deepening your relationship with God. Um, but there's emotional aspects of it too. So in that emotional aspect, I would say that we're getting rid of like negativity, lies that you're believing, areas that there's maybe a deep wound or a trauma that's happened that's keeping you from either being close to God or keeping you from finding that peace that the Bible describes, right? Because it's easy to say, oh, I have peace, like scripture says, but sometimes the reality of walking that out looks a little bit differently. So I would say that's at the very core of it. Sometimes it looks like, you know, getting rid of any unforgiveness in your life, any fear in your life, any areas that keep popping up, like a continual loop that's happened, like where you can tell that the Lord's teaching you the same lesson over and over again. There's a lie or a core belief that doesn't align with what God says uh in there. And so our goal is to just give that over to the Lord and ask him for what he has instead. At its simplest form, that's what inner healing is.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Very cool. Um, so from what you're saying, I feel like a a lot of people might see an overlap between that and like traditional therapy or counseling. So can you maybe give us a little bit more differentiation of what makes inner healing different from just straight up traditional therapy and counseling?

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Yeah. So traditional therapy and counseling is a wonderful tool. It's giving people skills to work through the events that are happening in life. Um, so it looks like you know, you and I having a conversation back and forth. Uh with inner healing, what we're doing is we're actually going straight to the Lord and asking for him for the key to unlock whatever's standing in their way. Um, so for instance, if one of the lies I used to really struggle with is just the lie that my body wasn't good, right? I had experienced a lot of trauma within my health. I'd had a lot of health struggles, I'd had cancer, I had Lyme's disease, I'd had some autoimmune disease. And so I would constantly like shame and curse my body. My body sucks, I hate my body, it doesn't work right. And the Lord really healed that. And what I found is that once I stopped having all those conversations and saying those things to my body, a lot of that disappeared because I was just in a place where the Lord gave me um kind of a conviction over how I was cursing and speaking to my body, and that shifted a lot of things for me. So that's a simple example of how it does. Um, if I was working with a therapist, I would have, you know, been talking about why I feel like that's true and where that's coming from. And we do that in inner healing, but in inner healing, we're really just cutting that thought process off, giving it to the Lord and asking him for a new one instead, and then building the muscle around believing that new thought or that new core belief is where the real work comes in. So both of them are incredibly beneficial, uh, but they just deal a little bit differently. Uh, most therapy doesn't have the spiritual aspect to it. Um, so for me personally, in all of my things that I've learned in life, uh, I don't do anything without God. I don't do anything without the Lord, right? Because it goes a lot faster when we go with Him. So um I have done both inner healing and I've done therapy in my past. And I would be open to doing both again. But usually I'm asking the Lord what the next step is for my clients. And some clients I do. They need therapy. They because they need those life skills here in the natural. Um, but inner healing will always move that needle forward. In fact, therapists are some of my biggest referrers because a lot of them can see people making the same mistakes, looping over things again and again, or just not building core beliefs out of the way that talk therapy maybe just can't allow them to get over that hurdle. It's really beautiful when you combine them both. And I know a handful of of therapists that do inner healing and therapy.

SPEAKER_01 5:43

So awesome. So if someone is brand new and has never experienced inner healing before, or even is like new to the concept of like hearing God, what what would you share with them about like what do they need to know before coming in or working with God?

SPEAKER_00 6:01

I don't I don't know necessarily that there's anything that they need to know. I they need well, let me back up that they need to know that this is a safe space, right? This isn't about shaming or condemning or you know, talking down about anything that they've done in the past or anything that's happened to them in the past. What it's really about is surrendering it over to the Lord so he can release the truth over them. Um, several of my clients have had uh physical abuse, sexual abuse, and so there's a lot of shame associated with those things, right? And so when we can turn those things over to the Lord and really bring in forgiveness uh so that their body's not holding on to it anymore. Not that we're condoning anything that anyone's done to somebody that's been abused by any means, but when we can release that and give it over to the Lord for Him to handle, we experience freedom.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Yeah, I know even in the work I do, it's like all that stuff is they're seeing it as data, like that that is what happened, and it doesn't have to carry shame.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

It's what we do with it, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:09

So yeah, that's so good. That's so good. And I think that's a lot of people's hesitation. Um, they get this idea from maybe social media or past experience where they have been shamed or condemned about something that happened or happened to them. Um, and they have the idea that that's who Jesus is, and in you and I know that that's not who he is, and that's not what he wants for people. He wants freedom, he wants freedom for people even more than they want it.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

Like that, even that what whether it happened, whether you did it or it happened to you, like a lot of times we're we're our bodies are holding trauma of stuff that was have that happened to us and like we had no control over, right? So yeah, that's good to point out. So let's um let's move into the somatic the somatic bodywork portion and like what because you do the inner healing with the somatic body work. Tell us a little bit about what that somatic body work is, just for someone who's completely new to it. What is what is that?

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Yeah, so the reason um I combine them is because our bodies can hold on to a lot of things. So inner healing on its own can be a fantastic tool, and it's it's given me a lot of freedom in my life. But when the Lord put me on this path, um, I would go in for all these inner healing appointments and I would leave feeling great. And then within a handful of days, probably like a day or two, I'd have uh just an incoming of physical symptoms in my body where I felt really, really unsafe. And, you know, my nervous system would kind of freak out. I wouldn't be sleeping, I'd be super tense, my heart would be racing, just completely my body would go into fight or flight. And it took me a while to unravel uh that that my body did not believe the healing that had just happened in my soul, which is what inner healing is, is it's soul and spirit healing. And so the Lord just started to unravel to me that when we've had physical sexual abuse, even just prolonged emotional abuse, chronic stress, we can hold on to that in the physiology of our body. And so we can do all the inner healing we want, we can do all the talk therapy or counseling that we want. But sometimes if the body's not being addressed, the body's just gonna pull you right back out of that space of healing. And so, including the body and allowing the body to emote and feel the things it needs to feel and release that excess energy or that surge of energy that can happen when we access those previous emotions or wounds or lies that are going on. Um, when we allow a release to come into play, then the body can actually settle and regulate the way that God designed us to. But what happens when we've had trauma is that adrenaline and cortisol, which are just hormones within our body, our body's flooded with those. And those are great tools if we're being chased by a bear or we need to lift a car off somebody. Fantastic tools. But if we're in a state where our body didn't have a release, let's say maybe somebody's pinned down and physically abused or sexually abused, all that adrenaline and cortisol is still flooding the body, and there's never a release attached to it. So the body stays in a perpetual state of fear, and that adrenaline and cortisol doesn't shut off and we get really dysregulated, and our nervous system becomes our greatest, our greatest hurdle then, because the body is just trying to keep us safe. It doesn't know that that situation has passed. And so in somatic release, what we're doing is creating a scenario where we're accessing the emotion, we're accessing the fear or whatever it is. We're gent, we're doing tools to just gently release it from the physiology of the body, and all of a sudden the body can regulate the way that it was designed to. So it's a very simple tools, but most people will be like, I cannot believe how free I feel. All of a sudden, I feel like this prison that my body's been trapped in. I feel peace. Um, and it's pretty incredible.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

So awesome. So maybe explain because I I've been I've been in, I've seen you, I've experienced it, and it's awesome. Um, maybe expare explain a little bit about like what does that what does the actual bodywork look like? And a lot of people will associate the word bodywork with massage, and these sound very different. So maybe give us some delineation there.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

Yeah. So the first thing I do is really uh do some exercises that just strengthen that brain-body connection. And that's as simple as laying hands on people and allowing them to connect to that part of their body. So it's a grounding exercise, it's an exercise that brings us internal to where we're focused on our own body because a lot of times if there's been trauma, we're disassociating and we're kind of operating separate from our mind and our body. Uh, this is a survival tool. It can be great if if we're just needing to survive, but we can't heal from that place. And staying disassociated will continue to cause uh health issues long term. So it's really bringing that body back into alignment and just strengthening that brain-body connection. So there's a lot of touch, there's a lot of physical touch. Um, and safe and healthy touch is one of the most calming things for the nervous system when it's non-sexual. So we need to just allow the body to just feel safe in that environment. That's step one. And then what an actual somatic release looks like is just breath or body movements that are associated once we've asked Jesus which emotion, which wound, which which thing we're going after that day. Um, if you think about in therapy, people will try to access uh, you know, a flashback or something like that, and they're having a visceral reaction, they're shaking, their bodies, they're crying, they're doing whatever. And when we add the somatic movements, which are just very simple movements, to that process, the body can release that excess adrenaline and cortisol and come back to what we call homeostasis, which is just regulation, your body feels peace. Um, so they're highly tactical appointments. I have my hands on the client almost the entire time so that their nervous system is feeling safe. And then we just follow the Lord's lead, whether it's somatic breath, somatic movement. Sometimes that looks like shaking, sometimes it looks like crying. Um, just creating a space for that emotion to work its way through, for that wound to work its way through, um, which is really hard to do on your own, right? If anybody's have any amount of trauma, chronic stress, uh, lies that they're believing, it's very hard to just invite that place, yourself to go back to that place where that emotion feels very, very real. And but when we can add the somatic movements to it, it actually comes to the surface and we release it and we're free from it versus shoving it back down and then it just lives in our body like a ping pong ball, right? Like just keeps wreaking havoc all over the place.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

So yeah. Yeah. So you you're mentioning a lot of safe touch, yes, which sounds great. Um, so for people who are new and haven't been in, um, I'll just add in that that that involves a massage table, right? So maybe take us through um like when someone gets to your office, like what's what's the process? How do how does the session start? And like, yeah, do they have to remove clothing or what do you what do you do with that?

SPEAKER_00 14:39

Yeah, so initially I just sit down and explain a little bit about how the nervous system works and why it's important that we go through each one of the steps, ask them if they have any questions. Uh, most people that come to me are referral, so they've been prepped by somebody that sent them ahead of time, so they are aware of the process. Uh removing clothing is optional. Um, they are covered the entire time on the table. So if they do choose to remove clothing, it's a comfort thing, it's not a required thing. Uh, I do do some, I have available some, you know, just some deep tissue work and some fascia work as part of my regimen, but being safe and feeling safe is the most important thing. And so some people have had such a high level of abuse that they're actually not even okay with that. Laying hands is as far as I get. Um, and it's completely up to the client what that looks like, um, because safety, your the body needs to feel safe to heal. We can't push through what that looks like. So they get under the covers, they're covered the whole time, and then we start um just some brain-body connection exercises. And then once I've got their body regulated, which I'll be honest, sometimes we don't even get that far because people are so dysregulated that we spend the whole time just getting them regulated. Um, but if we do get them regulated, then we just start asking Jesus where we're going today. What do you want to heal first today, Lord? And He always knows. It's always important to ask him. Uh, sometimes clients will come in with an idea of where we're going. Um, but I always ask permission, is if okay, if we just ask Jesus, because sometimes we think it's, you know, this event that happened six months ago that's got us triggered, but actually the lie came in 10 years before that, and this current event just has added to whatever the lie was that came in a decade before. So Jesus knows, Jesus knows where the keys are, and so we ask him first, and then we just allow the Lord to lead us through the session.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Yeah. Yeah. So I the word body work is out there a lot. I feel like somatic is out there or seeing it on social media. Um, my understanding is that there are people who offer just body work and somatic work on their own that's like separate from inner healing. Sure. Um, is that is that the case? Is that um do you feel like there is benefit just from that? Or do you want to talk to that difference when you add the inner healing component with it?

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with just doing body work, like having a massage on your own, like self-care is is really important in this day and age and just taking care of our bodies. Uh, the difference between adding the inner healing portion is that we get to access the point of where the wound or lie came in. And if I, if my whole body is locked up and braced and tense because I'm dysregulated, I might go in for a massage and spend 60 minutes getting a healthy touch and and feeling okay while I'm getting the massage. But in my experience, the minute I got off the table, I would return to that state of being totally locked up and braced, right? With inner healing involved, uh, we can ask the Lord what the root cause of that lockup is. And it's usually an emotional wound or a physical wound that's created a scenario where the nervous system is feeling unsafe. And so a safety mechanism is to brace, right? Like if you think about if your brain thinks you're about to be rear-ended in a car, it's gonna brace. And not that we always think we're gonna be rear-ended, but that's the analogy, right? We're braced for impact, the body feels that, and so when we add inner healing and the somatic release to it, we can get down to the bottom wound. And there's lots of somatic. I mean, somatic is such a budward buzzword right now. So there's lots of exercises and amazing, amazing things out there that are using somatic release. And there's also some not so good ones that are really accessing some new age occult y type stuff. Um, the good ones are fine. Uh, any somatic exercise is gonna help regulate the nervous system. And that's really important because when you're on my table, yes, we can access the deep wounds, we can access the lies, but how you interact with your body once you leave this office is very important. Like, meaning we can think ourselves right back into fight or flight if we're constantly freaking out about things or doing things at a thousand miles per hour. Like the body, the body knows that and it's gonna think that there's another threat, and you're gonna go right back to fight or flight. So learning to operate it from a state of regulation can take some time and some education. And I have lots of tools available for that. I have uh my uh somatic workbook or somatic flashcards that are great exercises to use in between sessions. Like, for instance, people can apply them if they're just having a day where they can tell that their heart's racing a little bit or their thoughts are racing a little bit. Quick exercises that they can use in the moment to pull themselves out of fight or flight. And that's really important because the nervous system needs to learn hey, I can turn off on my own, right? Now, uh just attending a somatic exercise class without ever addressing the wounds or the lies is gonna keep somebody continually on that hamster wheel of trying to find healing. And they're gonna and they're probably gonna believe that somatic exercises don't work. They do work.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

We just need to address the lies in the wounds as well because the body's maybe some level of like a band-aid approach until you actually get underneath it.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

It is, yeah. Yeah, not that it's a bad thing, it's not, but it's not gonna solve the problem if there's deep wounds and lies that are running the show.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Right, right. And sometimes band-aids are helpful for a time being, right? So yeah. Um, so ultimately, I think we'd say, like, if God is leading you, then you should do a session. But um, for those who are newer to even hearing God, like what might um what might be an indicator that inner healing and somatic body work paired together would be a good thing for somebody? Like what what kind of things might show up in their life that would indicate they should come see you?

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Yeah, if they're having unexplained um health issues that they really can't find an answer for, whether it be through a medical professional or holistic professional, and they're just kind of going in circles, um, that would be a sign that there's some deeper healing that needs to happen um in the inner healing realm. Um, if they've done inner healing before and they still feel like the body um is not really coming into alignment with the healing that their soul and their spirit has, that would be the perfect person. Um if they have uh, I had another one, I just lost it. But uh if if you're feeling that pull as you're listening to this, um, the body knows, right? If this feels like, oh yeah, I could really use that. Um, I have had clients that have never had really deep trauma. They had just learned from a young age to operate uh at a thousand miles per hour. And what that did is it kept their nervous system in overdrive so they could never regulate. So I have a handful of clients that haven't had massive deep trauma, but they just the way that they were internalizing and operating um was keeping them stuck in fight or flight. So those people tend to have um fewer sessions. They just need a handful of sessions before they're learning to operate that way. I try to educate my clients on how they need to make small changes in between sessions. Um, and sometimes they just have a handful and they're done. I've had clients that have had years and years of abuse and lifelong trauma, and that takes a little bit longer because uh the body has to learn to operate in safety. And when you have, you know, thousands of examples that the world is not. Safe because of what you experience, it can take some time to unravel.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Yeah. And so as you were just saying, everybody's going to be a little bit different on how many sessions they might need. But what's the typical cadence? Like, are they coming every week, every month, every what do you usually see? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

So I typically see clients monthly because it does take the nervous system time to regulate and just kind of release things after a session. Um, now on occasion, when somebody first comes to me, the Lord will um give me instructions that I need to see them a little bit more often in the beginning because there's maybe something at the surface that just needs to be shed so they can work through it. But my typical cadence is monthly. As far as how long they see me, it's so different with every client. Like I said, some people come for a handful of sessions and they feel great and they move on. Some people that have had lifelong trauma, uh, it's it's a while that they're seeing me. And then I have a whole handful of clients that just come to me for their own self-care. Most of them are therapists. I have a long list on my client roster of people that are therapists themselves and they're coming to get their own self-care because they're constantly pouring out and they understand how important uh combining the inner healing with the body is really, really important. And at that point, we're doing less inner healing and we're doing more just pouring in and nourishing their nervous system. Um, so it looks different for everyone. And like I have I have a client that's been with me uh almost six years uh since I first opened because she likes the self-care, she likes the accountability. Um, for her, it's really turned in more of a coaching program than it has um deep inner healing. We're not doing a ton of deep inner healing anymore unless she gets triggered. But she's had some really, really big life events going on throughout that six years. And so I've just been that place of support for her. So I meet clients where they're at when they're ready to move on. I bless them to go. And if they want to continue to stay, I always give them an indication when I think that they're ready to stop coming monthly. Some of them just want to keep coming monthly.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Yeah. So can you uh maybe share a testimony or two of clients you've worked with who have experienced breakthrough in the inner healing and somatic body work realm?

SPEAKER_00 25:24

Yeah. Um, the first one I want to share, I have a client that had struggled with um binge eating her entire life. She's in her 50s and her entire life, just binge eating. Every time she tried to make healthier changes, she would find herself actually getting worse at the binging, right? And so she tried every, you know, macro eating program, like buying a healthy eating plant. She's been thousands over the years on different plans, and it always came back to she couldn't control that binge eating. And so when she came to me and we asked the Lord what the root, the very the root was really simple. She had um been told as a child that she was fat and by the school nurse, and her mom controlled everything that she ate from age 10 to 18. She was given one cup of rice at a table where the rest of her family was eating a normal, healthy meal. Um, and she so she had to, she had to steal food to survive. Like literally to survive, she had to steal and hide food. And so as soon as we got rid of some of those wounds and those lies associated with it, it was like all of a sudden her body knew how to nourish it correctly. And she didn't have that internal struggle every time she tried to change up um a healthy diet. And she lost like, I think she lost like 40 pounds in a year without really even trying because she just had that simple mindset uh shift. Um so that one was really incredible. Uh, I have another client that had experienced um a traumatic event that had left her with um tachycardia, which is just a racing heart. Um, and she'd had some medical complications from that and um had tried a number of things. She tried therapy, she had tried regular inner healing. Um, and then she attended one of my classes where I was talking about how the nervous system was involved. And hers has been a slow healing. Um, she says she's about 80% healed because she's just undone some of the lies and things around it, but she hasn't had a full healing yet. So she's still coming back, but she's like, I'm so much better than I was. And I realize how much of my internalization and my thought process was contributing to that problem. And so there's been a lot of unlearning uh that's happened in that process. Um, and then I had another client who already kind of touched on like she'd never had a lot of huge, tragic uh traumas in her life. She just had learned from a young age that she had to operate and perform and strive, and it was about perfection. And so we broke off some of those lies, uh, got her body regulated. She'd also was one of those people that operated at a thousand miles per hour all of the time. And so teaching her her body and her soul to really slow down and soften um has been completely life-changing for her. And she's just unlearned some of those things that just kept her driving and pushing and feeling like she always had to be perfect and perform in the lie that if when you don't perform perfectly, you're a failure, which I think so many people struggle with and don't realize that can be a driving force to keep you dysregulated.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

So good. Yeah. Good thing to be aware of, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Um, I feel like we've covered a lot today. Is there anything else you feel like would be helpful for someone to know that's considering coming to see you for inner healing and somatic body works?

SPEAKER_00 28:46

Yeah, I feel like oftentimes Christians can be the ones that are most hesitant to come in because they're like, well, I can just read my Bible and apply the principles that the Lord gives us, which there's truth in that, absolutely. But the body is feeling the impact of all these shoulds, right? Like, oh, I should have peace, I should, you know, just be living in love. But the reality is we live in a fallen world, and every single one of us is affected by that, right? So if you need some support, uh undoing some of those lies, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. And so I just invite you to come and give it a chance if you're feeling that tug.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Yeah, yeah. And it sounds like it's good not only for people who have gone through traumatic stuff, but also people who are just needing self-care, right?

SPEAKER_00 29:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

So I think that leads us into kind of talking a little bit about what we're gonna be partnering up with um next month here. Yeah. Of um kind of a self-care type day, right? Um, so do you want to kind of share a little bit about what we're calling your peace, your peace reset, right? It's an immersive experience for inner healing and deep restoration. So um, do you want to take a take a little stab at that?

SPEAKER_00 30:02

And yeah, so uh the idea behind it is that we want uh people to come in for just an incredibly deep healing day where they can just feel reset and restored and replenished uh by utilizing both of the service that Krista and I offer. So I'll be doing some bodywork sessions, I'll be doing some neurofeedback sessions, which we haven't even talked about today, but I have lots of podcasts on neurofeedback if you're interested in learning more. Um, lots of space to just allow that healing to flow through, which can be really, really hard to do on your own. And then you're gonna be offering some fun stuff too.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Yeah, yeah. So we have I'll be doing kinesiology sessions with um emotional clearing, and it pairs really well with what Jen does. Yeah. Um, I've got an amp coil, so we'll have some different equipment people will be able to use, as well as an infrared sauna. So there'll be plenty of options. It'll be a full day thing from nine to five, where you're gonna get time to have one-on-one sessions, prophetic words, like be nourished with food and prayer and time, time with Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Um, we're making space to for you to have space. So that does mean that we're only we only have six seats available. So um as as it fills up, we and and we see how it goes, we hope to be able to offer this again. Yes. Um there's more of you available, more of you interested. Um, if you don't get a spot this time around, there will be there will be more um opportunities available. Um, but uh the first round may be maybe the the best deal financially.

SPEAKER_00 31:41

Yes, yes. And I think the date is February 16th, it's President's Day, is that correct?

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Yeah, so we're gonna do a Monday when most when a lot of people will have off work. Um so you don't even have to give up a weekend.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

Yeah, and you can ask your spouse if you have a spouse or significant other for a Valentine's Day gift of self-care. Um, that's the idea is we just want people feeling so replenished and renewed when they leave.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

So yeah. Very good. I'm excited. I think it'll be it'll be really, really cool. And and it's also just being in a room with other people who are pursuing the same thing can be so yes, it can. The Lord knows six other women with with the two of us there, um all heading in that same direction of like, let's heal, let's connect with God, let's let's hear what he has to say and and and seek after our healing.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

Yeah, it's so good. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be so good. I'm so excited for what the Lord's gonna do. So thanks for interviewing me and just getting this message out there. Inner healing is such an important tool. Krista also uses inner healing in her practice, um, which is unique to she's the only person that I know that does nutrition response testing that uses inner healing alongside of it. Uh, and it's really, really powerful. I'm a client of Krista's as well, and I've experienced um tons of healing. And what I love is that we both have a ton of knowledge, but we both everyone has blind spots, and sometimes you just need another person to take a look, which is what both of us do for our clients, um, and and just hear from the Lord in a different way. So that's really good. So thanks for listening, and um, we hope to see you at our uh retreat coming up. What is it called? Uh find your peace. Find your peace, yeah. All right, all right, well, thank you.